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	<title>Comments on: Watexy &#8211; Latex robot for Google Wave</title>
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		<title>By: Lerngruppe 2.0 » Das Uni Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Lerngruppe 2.0 » Das Uni Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Durch Plugins bzw. Extensions lassen sich sogar Mathematische Formeln einfügen und bearbeiten (Watexy). Besonders in der Phase der Prüfungsvorbereitung haben wir gute Erfahrungen damit gemacht. So [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Durch Plugins bzw. Extensions lassen sich sogar Mathematische Formeln einfügen und bearbeiten (Watexy). Besonders in der Phase der Prüfungsvorbereitung haben wir gute Erfahrungen damit gemacht. So [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mikkel,

We are experiencing even more trouble today.  Perhaps we just have too much watexy content on one page?  

Would you consider examining our page to see how we are using it and see if you can identify why the robot is being crazy?

My wave account is jeffreyjgray@googlewave.com -- or email me at jgray@jhu.edu and I can invite you to the wave with our homework solutions.

I would appreciate any insight you could offer.  It&#039;s really important for us to have equations in this document and the wave+watexy seemed like a great way to do it, but at this point the problems are making it very difficult for us.

Thank you for considering the help.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mikkel,</p>
<p>We are experiencing even more trouble today.  Perhaps we just have too much watexy content on one page?  </p>
<p>Would you consider examining our page to see how we are using it and see if you can identify why the robot is being crazy?</p>
<p>My wave account is <a href="mailto:jeffreyjgray@googlewave.com">jeffreyjgray@googlewave.com</a> &#8212; or email me at <a href="mailto:jgray@jhu.edu">jgray@jhu.edu</a> and I can invite you to the wave with our homework solutions.</p>
<p>I would appreciate any insight you could offer.  It&#8217;s really important for us to have equations in this document and the wave+watexy seemed like a great way to do it, but at this point the problems are making it very difficult for us.</p>
<p>Thank you for considering the help.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel Meyer Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikkel Meyer Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;ll do that. Thanks.

Yes, that is what MathML would mean. You can take a look at e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML . But the downside is that additional fonts is required to be installed for MathML to work.

Regarding c&#039;n&#039;p from Word, I&#039;m not sure. I actually haven&#039;t thought about it before you mention it. I&#039;ll keep it in my mind, but it&#039;s a low priority if it&#039;s even possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;ll do that. Thanks.</p>
<p>Yes, that is what MathML would mean. You can take a look at e.g. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML</a> . But the downside is that additional fonts is required to be installed for MathML to work.</p>
<p>Regarding c&#8217;n'p from Word, I&#8217;m not sure. I actually haven&#8217;t thought about it before you mention it. I&#8217;ll keep it in my mind, but it&#8217;s a low priority if it&#8217;s even possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply.  Let us know if there&#039;s any way we can pressure Google to address this. 

I like the MathML idea--would this give us real fonts rather than images?  That would be much nicer on the eyes.

The LaTeX input form is wonderful and I think the best solution for writing equations.

Would cut-and-paste from the Word equation editor ever be possible?  Seems like that could be encoded in MathML.  Its LaTeX-like entry and immediate conversion to math fonts is wonderful and might be a goal to strive toward with this package.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply.  Let us know if there&#8217;s any way we can pressure Google to address this. </p>
<p>I like the MathML idea&#8211;would this give us real fonts rather than images?  That would be much nicer on the eyes.</p>
<p>The LaTeX input form is wonderful and I think the best solution for writing equations.</p>
<p>Would cut-and-paste from the Word equation editor ever be possible?  Seems like that could be encoded in MathML.  Its LaTeX-like entry and immediate conversion to math fonts is wonderful and might be a goal to strive toward with this package.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel Meyer Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikkel Meyer Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I&#039;m sorry for the trouble. It seems like the server can&#039;t always cope with the pressure, although I&#039;m not entirely sure that&#039;s the real problem. The reason is that right now Wave doesn&#039;t allow  robots to attach images inline in waves, hence the wave has to get the image from the server every single time. This is not optimal - not at all - but it&#039;s the only solution for now.

Another solution is to use MathML, and I&#039;m also working on that. But for know it&#039;s really not that supported, so I&#039;m not planning on releasing anything shortly.

The problem with you having to click the image can be caused by two things: either it&#039;s simply not generated (which I don&#039;t think is the case, because then you probably wouldn&#039;t be able to see it when editing), or wave&#039;s auto-height adjusting is terrible (sorry, Google). As far as I have experience, it&#039;s only an issue with block math, so maybe try with inlining equations (although it doesn&#039;t give you the possibility to edit, again because Waves doesn&#039;t support inline Gadgets).

So there&#039;s still som bugs, but as you can read, I believe that the most is caused by Google :-).

Please keep commenting and posting experiences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I&#8217;m sorry for the trouble. It seems like the server can&#8217;t always cope with the pressure, although I&#8217;m not entirely sure that&#8217;s the real problem. The reason is that right now Wave doesn&#8217;t allow  robots to attach images inline in waves, hence the wave has to get the image from the server every single time. This is not optimal &#8211; not at all &#8211; but it&#8217;s the only solution for now.</p>
<p>Another solution is to use MathML, and I&#8217;m also working on that. But for know it&#8217;s really not that supported, so I&#8217;m not planning on releasing anything shortly.</p>
<p>The problem with you having to click the image can be caused by two things: either it&#8217;s simply not generated (which I don&#8217;t think is the case, because then you probably wouldn&#8217;t be able to see it when editing), or wave&#8217;s auto-height adjusting is terrible (sorry, Google). As far as I have experience, it&#8217;s only an issue with block math, so maybe try with inlining equations (although it doesn&#8217;t give you the possibility to edit, again because Waves doesn&#8217;t support inline Gadgets).</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s still som bugs, but as you can read, I believe that the most is caused by Google <img src='http://www.scienco.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Please keep commenting and posting experiences!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really neat robot.  We&#039;re trying to use this in class to post homework solutions.  It&#039;s wonderful to have real equations in the text.  And students can comment or even correct the solutions which is fun.

However, we&#039;re having a lot of trouble with images not being rendered.  There seem to be some serious bugs in the current version.  Images show up as lines, and I have to double-click on them to get the edit box and then the rendering is shown.  I know the students are going to complain (and blame me!).  

Am I doing something wrong?  Are there any bot updates / bugfixes to correct this?

Thanks again for your effort with this important project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really neat robot.  We&#8217;re trying to use this in class to post homework solutions.  It&#8217;s wonderful to have real equations in the text.  And students can comment or even correct the solutions which is fun.</p>
<p>However, we&#8217;re having a lot of trouble with images not being rendered.  There seem to be some serious bugs in the current version.  Images show up as lines, and I have to double-click on them to get the edit box and then the rendering is shown.  I know the students are going to complain (and blame me!).  </p>
<p>Am I doing something wrong?  Are there any bot updates / bugfixes to correct this?</p>
<p>Thanks again for your effort with this important project.</p>
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		<title>By: More on open notebooks &#171; Semantic Werks</title>
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		<dc:creator>More on open notebooks &#171; Semantic Werks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] agents/bots and arbitrary Javascript extensions is more useful. For example, someone has written &#8216;Watexy&#8217;, a Wave bot which can interpret Latex [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] agents/bots and arbitrary Javascript extensions is more useful. For example, someone has written &#8216;Watexy&#8217;, a Wave bot which can interpret Latex [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Domenico</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Domenico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, thanks for your work. I have tosay that I have the
same problem here too. Formulas between $$ don&#039;t show at all and these in \[ only show as missing picture icons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thanks for your work. I have tosay that I have the<br />
same problem here too. Formulas between $$ don&#8217;t show at all and these in \[ only show as missing picture icons.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel Meyer Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.scienco.org/2009/watexy-latex-robot-for-google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikkel Meyer Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds a bit strange. I just checked it and the images showed up as usual. I haven&#039;t checked the actual $$ to image conversion, but I haven&#039;t change anything. But maybe Wave have been updated and bugs have been introduced. It&#039;s certainly been seen before. Let&#039;s give it some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds a bit strange. I just checked it and the images showed up as usual. I haven&#8217;t checked the actual $$ to image conversion, but I haven&#8217;t change anything. But maybe Wave have been updated and bugs have been introduced. It&#8217;s certainly been seen before. Let&#8217;s give it some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Oyvind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oyvind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice!

$$ doesn&#039;t work for me, and the images aren&#039;t completely rendered always, but heck; wave isn&#039;t out yet :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!</p>
<p>$$ doesn&#8217;t work for me, and the images aren&#8217;t completely rendered always, but heck; wave isn&#8217;t out yet <img src='http://www.scienco.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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