Neo 1973 arrived!

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Posted October 5, 2007 at 08:20 (UTC)

For just half an hour ago my (hopefully) sweet little new toy arrived! I’m really not going to say much – yet. So I’ll just give you some pictures which barely left the camera (click to enlarge):

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What an excellent timing receiving such a sweetheart on a Friday!

15 Responses

  1. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Ohh yeah, there are no pics of any printed documentation because it wasn’t included; that’s certainly a phone after my head :-)

    Furthermore a kernel panic came at booting, so no pictures of the actual GUI yet.

  2. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Now I’ve flashed my Neo and it’s actually booting (as told it’s not when it arrives)! Wonderful!

  3. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Now I’ve got my Neo connected to the internet as well (through usbnet). Maybe I should take a quick trip outside in order to get some fresh air :-) .

  4. miki Says:

    Congrats,

    You’ve even choosen the same set as I, advanced in orange/white :)

    I had a base black/silver shipped for another guy with mine, and I must say it made me a bit envy, but the white/orange has a nice flashy appearance, it won’t blend into the crowd out in the streets ;)

    What images have you flashed and whats you experiences with the phone part?

    Mikkel,

  5. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Cheers!

    Hell yeah – it looked great in those OpenMoko-colors :-) .

    To comment on your other post, I agree that it’s really cool that this phone is wide open – the most closed thing is the casing, and it’s really easy to open :-) .

    At the other end, it’s almost not a phone yet – but it has tons of potential, so I’ll personally help with making it ready (but, unfortunately, not before Christmas, I think).

    I flashed it with openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01.jffs2 and uImage-2.6.21.6-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin and did nothing to u-boot.

  6. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    I’ve btw. made http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Denmark and added, hope it’s okay.

  7. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    I’ve just flashed with these images from [1], and it seems to work:
    uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11+svnr2937-r2-fic-gta01.bin
    OpenMoko-scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-September-Snapshot-20071001-fic-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

    [1]: http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/?M=D

  8. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Although the icons in the tray is not showed before I /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart

  9. miki Says:

    Fine with the Denmark local group, doesn’t make much sense to have 3 groups for 4 people, so maybe we should ditch the others until it gets more crowded in the DK group.

    Hmm, I used the same kernel, but an older official rootfs image (from 20070917). I can see that there’s even a build from 20071005 now, better give it a try.

    I have a build system running on my laptop, but after they began using some stuff from Qtopia it fetches the complete tarball and I ran out of freaking diskspace (moko: 6.6 GiB), so I can’t do a custom build right now, dammit. Got to do some housecleaning…

    I have had the same experience with tray icons disappearing from the panel. What I see is that the matchbox-panel-2 process goes defunct, but you can restart just the panel by issuing the matchbox-panel-2 command line found in /etc/matchbox/session (set env DISPLAY=:0 to make it work).

    Have fun!

    Mikkel,

  10. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    No, agree. Let’s keep it national until more people sees the light :-) .

    I haven’t set up an entire build environment – both because it’s requiring roughly 12 GB and because I’m having a laptop where it approximately would take 1-2 days to build. So I just think I’m saving up for a monster of a computer, but that’s quite hard when studying.

    Thanks for the tip about matchbox. I’ve tried with
    /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
    but this didn’t work. Actually it just stopped X and never got it started again (if I did it directly from the phone – I remember on the other hand that doing it through SSH sometimes worked).

    Thanks – and you too.

  11. miki Says:

    Well, I’ve been building images for QEMU during summer on around 6 GiB (with the trick that causes it to rm work files when done), but something changed recently.

    With sufficent diskspace, time is your friend… Even on old-timers ;)

    I haven’t had much progress, functionality-wise, during weekeend. But I’ve gaines some experiences about deep discharge (~15 mins charge at pre (100mA) is enough to be able to go into uboot and choose fast charge (when added)), and done some code analysis on the gsmd/ libgsm/dialer/openmoko-panel-gsm relationship to try to make any sense out of the completely-no-response-from-modem status I’ve had on the 20071005 images…

    When you say “seems to work” does that also include gsm (ie dialling is possible)?

    Mikkel,

  12. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    I gave up trying to build it entirely – my computer is too slow. Instead I’m just developing directly on Ubuntu for now – and hoping I’ll figure something out.

    I haven’t looked at the charging neither.

    But I did look a bit on the gsm-part, and no, it’s not working at all. I haven’t tried to hack with it yet, though. So no dialling at all. I’m a bit confused why somebody can dial and others not? Do you know?

    Instead I’ve started developing a keypad which can be used be fingers instead of the stylus. There’s no dictionary in it yet, but it’s soon working like the good old ones :-) Personally I think I would be nice to be able to chose such a keypad instead of the one requiring the stylus.

  13. miki Says:

    Don’t know what makes the difference about dialing yet, with the 20070917 official images, I was able (using libgsm-tool on the command line, not the ui dialer) to dial a number after some fiddling with the /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta01-pm-gsm/(power_on|reset) handes.

    I even managed to dial in to the phone once, with the gui responding (I didn’t manage to pick it up before the call was diverted to voice mail though).

    With scaredycats unoffcial 20071005 (just openmoko-devel- not his modified scredycat-) images it seems like the modem isn’t powered up, no ET phone home….

    I’m flashing his 20071008 scaredycat rootfs image right now to test some more…

    A better keypad would sure be nice, the current is not finger friendly at-all… Is it something T9 like you mean by good old ones?

    Theres also some rather exciting alternative text input ideas in the thread at http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-December/000508.html.

    Mikkel,

  14. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Okay – sounds exciting. I haven’t tried with the manual handles – I’ve just accepted it doesn’t work yet, and started playing around with other things :-) .

    Please let me know how it goes with the new flashing.

    No, no dictionary yet, just the n-times pressing results in the n-th letter on the key (22 results in a etc). But a dictionary is certainly in the roadmap! I’d have to make some researches regarding patents (T9 is patented AFAIK). But I image something like keeping the two pressings to get a “b”, and then all words with starting-letter “b” shows up – a bit like T9, but now exactly.

    I’m think about using using something like this:
    http://www1.harenet.ne.jp/~waring/vocab/wordlists/vocfreq.html
    (see http://www1.harenet.ne.jp/~waring/vocab/wordlists/1-2000.txt – sorted by beginning letter etc.).

    I’ll have a look on your reference tonight – thanks.

  15. Mikkel Meyer Andersen Says:

    Just look quickly on the reference. It looks interesting for styluses, but I want to make it possible to use the fingers instead.

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